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Gang and drug activity among complaints aimed at Job Corps

Training program suffers from lack of oversight, students say

Published: Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Updated: Sunday, June 21, 2009 18:06


The Gary Job Corps Center, a sprawling former Army base in San Marcos and the first of Texas State University graduate Lyndon Johnson's Job Corps facilities, has been providing work force training for youth since the program's inception in 1964. More than 2 million at-risk youths have graduated from the Job Corps program nationwide and nearly 2,000 are presently enrolled at Gary. However, current ACC students at the Gary facility have directed criticism at the program, adding to years of concerns about Job Corps.

Students cited gang and drug activity, vandalism and maintenance issues as problems that have plagued them and colored their experiences at the program.

Under the program, students live onsite at the San Marcos facility, and those listed as "distinguished" have the opportunity to attend classes at an outside college. For those attending classes at ACC, Gary Job Corps provides bussing to and from the facility. Most of the students come from disadvantaged backgrounds and many never received high school diplomas.

When asked whether the program has helped students enter the workforce, one student said about the Gary facility in San Marcos, "Only through the ability to go to college. It actually looks bad on a resume to be from Job Corps... their students are famous for being delinquents... and that gives employers a bad idea."

The student, who has been with the program for a year and a half, said, "I was robbed when I first got there… The way some of the students behave when I am on the bus is one example; they're throwing people around... there's a lot of students that are just trying to sit there or do something as simple as stand in line for the bus or the cafeteria; they're minding their own business and they'll get trampled... I know when I go around the center I can tell that a lot of the teachers and staff feel intimidated by the students."

In response, many staff members "push the students with empty threats," she said. "They never follow through with it and after the first couple empty threats they know nothing is going to happen to them and it just gets worse."

Another student, who wished to remain anonymous, said that he joined a gang at Gary during his first year. He said, "I feel fairly safe but that's because I surround myself with people who would have my back if anything were to go down."

Gary Job Corps purports to have a zero tolerance policy regarding drugs and violence. Administrators did not respond to questions about buying, selling or the consumption of drugs by students, nor did they respond to requests for information about violent activity at Gary.

Regarding the availability of drugs on campus, the student who admits to being in a gang said that the majority of students participate in using drugs and that faculty do little to stop them.

"Honestly there's no way anybody doesn't know about that. A lot of [the staff] just look the other way," he said.

Sources allege that Gary faculty misrepresented questions related to the availability of drugs as part of a survey. The survery was designed to track attitudes toward campus life.

A student reported the faculty member explained, "What they mean is, can you legally obtain drugs and alcohol?" The student remarked, "everyone knows that drugs are not legal in the first place. What would they mean by that?"

Administrators refused the Accent's request to view the Student Satisfaction Survey, provided by the Department of Labor.

Gary's managing partner, the Management and Training Corporation, is no stranger to misrepresentation. MTC, a private company contracted by the Department of Labor to manage the facility, administers numerous Job Corps programs in addition to 12 privatized correctional facilities concentrated throughout the southwest United States.

According to a 2003 online report by the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Labor, the Kittrell Job Corps Center in Kittrell, N. C., was accused of manipulating student records in order to artificially improve reported performance. The altered records resulted in the center's managing firm, the Management and Training Corporation, receiving a potential overpayment of $664,000. In response, the Labor Department's Employment and Training Administration cited "poor management, imprecise record keeping, and human error as likely factors" contributing to the overpayment. Despite criticism, Gary administrators are confident that the facilities are helping move disadvantaged youth into the job market.

"Job Corps has been a wonderful private/public partnership," said Curtis Price, Center Director for Gary Job Corps.

"Job Corps takes at-risk youth and trains them to have long term attachment to the work force," said Price. "Our students do internships or work-based learning, which is an excellent way of evaluating how they are prepared once they get out there. We get feedback to see how they are performing on the job and then we can adjust our training accordingly. We have a business and industry council made up of professionals in each field we train in that evaluates our teaching methods, our equipment, and evaluates whether that trade is viable for the future, to make sure that we are moving along with the proper training."

In 2005, Gary won four awards at a regional conference held in Dallas, including a first place award in vocational production.

Abe Parker III, a Job Corps student studying human services at ACC, admires Gary Job Corps. "The training I received in Job Corps is helping me a whole lot in ACC," Parker said.

Gary spokesman, Randolph Goodman, explained the ease in which students can attend programs. "Students that we have here on the center are really employees, because all students are paid while they're here. It's unlike any other training facility. You know, people have to pay to attend ACC, we pay students to come here. The primary issue is the vocational training, the social training and the academic training."

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15 comments

Anonymous
Mon Jan 23 2012 09:47
My son is currently attending and we chose Job Corps because he was having so much difficulty in school we thought this was a great choice to finish his GED and get his welding certification. He told me he has learned to live with the "inmates" here. He's been beaten up, witnessed drug use, had things stolen from him and has to sleep with some of his belongings in his pillow case. He is determined to finish but I have a feeling if the adult supervision doesn't improve then I'll be bringing him home to find an alternative for him.
R.C. Romo
Tue Dec 13 2011 18:37
Yeah these people posting horror stories about Gary Job Corps are exaggerating, I went in September 09 and I was there for about a year. Yeah there are drugs, sex, violence, etc. But it's definitely not widespread and people who violated the rules were taken care of appropriately. I was even a student ambassador, so I've seen plenty of people get kicked out for valid reasons, but they never seem to think it was their fault, and a lot of them are the ones who come to websites like this and post their "horror" stories. If you go to job corps with the right mindset and get what you need done, you will there successful.

Check it out for yourself, they offer tours you know.

Anonymous
Mon Nov 28 2011 00:45
wow....you know the thing is everyone has a different experience. it is all up to you i went to whitney m. young job corps. in 2003, i completed my trade, received my g.e.d, and driver's license all in a matter of three months. people getting raped, alcohol, drugs...this is all common all the same, whether it be the real world, school, jail, job corp, work, etc. there is no way to protect everyone from everything and it will always be this way. what people have to realize is that you can put a good review or a bad review but it all depends on what kind of person you are and what your outlook is on life. If you are weak, you will be preyed upon, if you are strong willed and strong minded then you will succeed. you take a weak person and put them on the street and tell me they won't end up a junky, raped, and beaten. that is just the way things are. as for the lady that posted about her child and the mental problems and all that...you are the problem and the reason the child is who he/she is...you just said it...."I brought him home where he is safe now but forever changed" there is your answer "safe" he was never safe whether he was with you or without you....he had no chance you just referred to him as if he were a pet. how does a boy become a man? i am female and i survived....lol....not that survival is what it was. no it was fun i was 16, hard headed, and strong willed. i didn't have rules until i went to job corps. it took some getting used to. not leaving when i wanted, having curfew, chores, certain dinner time, and having to get up and go to class in the morning. but all in all it was fun because on the outside of the discipline and structure you had the "typical" normal life, its like living in a small not and not being able to leave. job corps gives you everything you need, i would recommend it to everyone who can handle it, who is ready for the world. just remember it is what you make it and weakness is shown no mercy no matter where you are at.
Anonymous
Fri Nov 4 2011 04:27
It is unfortunate that the public is not educated and aware of the program. We have to start listening and following up on students negative comments. When something is free to the disadvantage at large, truth is coming forth. Students look to adults for honesty and direction. I pray to be forgiven if I have mislead any hurting student to something that is unrealistic and expect them to change in 2 weeks. Can you imagined most of the students are dealing with major issues mentally and physically. I want us as a community to be real and honest! If we do not wake up and help students deal with the trauma and mental issues before leaving for Job Corps, please tell me how comfortable you are sleeping next to......Lives need to be a priority instead of NUMBERS! Educate and listen CAREFULLY to the students who are hurting worst since the adventure......
Anonymous
Sun Oct 9 2011 17:09
I am currently a student at Job Corps. Everything mentioned in this article is a lie. Of course there are going to be drugs and alchohol, it's called life. No one up here has the balls to fight. If you hit someone and they hit you back both student's get terminated and sent to jail. All these people on here posting how bad Job Corps is obviously have not even been to a center in their life. The only way to know how Job Corps really is to see for yourself. Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.
Anonymous
Thu Aug 4 2011 13:54
I cannot believe im reading this.Hear i thught we were so lucky. My boyfriend is going to the Carl d Perkins job corp. I thought this was a great chance for him to get the training and education we couldnt afford at home. so he left his family and friends to go to a place that has just as much crime and drugs as the place we are trying to get out of. I should have known it was to good to be true. becuz to be honest every program made to save or help disadvantaged people just suck due to corruption and greed and any help that they might have gotten is lost and they are surrounded by all the crime and drugs they are trying to better themselves to get away from.
Eric Mc Means - at The Whitney M Young Job Corps Center
Sat Mar 19 2011 00:50
Job Corp is a scam. Zero Tolerance doesn't exist. Drugs and Alcohol are always on campus. Gang rapes happened four times while I was their. Go to college......... don't waste your time at a government program that strips your freedom. Job Corps in Hell.
Becky Hannah
Thu Mar 3 2011 13:34
I am a gary student at the moment the "drugs and Alcohol and the SEX" are things you get into they just dont happen to you Gary helped me change my life and I respect them alot Gary is how you want it to be you can either make a good experience or bad depends on your attitude of things you can only make it however you want. It handles business and you can do alota things if you know the right people and are willing to learn and take criticism. -Becky Hannah-
Gene S. Ognibene
Fri Feb 25 2011 16:23
I graduated from Gary Job Corps in 2005 with a diploma of Computer Service Technician. By that time they had already helped me find an internship at a local factory which had turned into a fulltime job offer. After working for the rest of the year I enrolled in Texas State University and completed a BBA in Computer Information Systems in 4 years. I current am an IT specialist for the United States Air Force. Anyone that says Job Corps isn't producing top caliber students has never met me. There ARE drugs, gangs, and lots of students having sex. Why would you be so surprised that those things happen on campus? They are occruing all over our nation in every strata of society. Truly we live in a fallen world and we ourselves are all sinners. The only answer is Jesus Christ. I attribute my success to him Job Corps was just a tool that help me get where I wanted.
Anonymous
Sat Feb 19 2011 19:08
I have read many comments concerning young people attending this "Garys job corps". It seems more like a prison than a place some peope to get hel with addictions, be it drugs, or ALCOHOL" OR ANYTHING ELSE. tHEY WERE THERE TO BE MOLDED AND HELPED. Helped to find work. But all it sounds like to me is a prison of sort, that few people get out of on a positive note.
It would look like or seem like people would lead by example....but go to facebook, look up patrick guinn and watch all his pictures with beer in his hand most of the time, including one where he is drinking out of what appears to be a half gallon pitcher of beer. Look at all his pictures. And his employer....Garys job corps. Do yo screen these people before you hire them. Surely he cant be a teacher or what ever, he must cut grass. Is this a good example for these kids. He is doing and posting them on facebook things he should be teaching the young people not to do. HELLO???????? i AM NOT SAYING HE SHOULD NOT DO IT, HE IS AN ADULT...I THINK, BUT DON'T POST THEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eXAMPLE "gOOD MORNING MR. gUINN. gOOD MORNING CLASS. AND HOW WAS YOUR WEEKEND/ CLASS RESPONDS VERY WELL...AND YOU MR. GUINN? HAHAHAHA, I GOT MORE SLOSHED DRINKING THAN I EVER HAVE BEFORE. FINE INFLUENCE FOR THESE KIDS. LOOK AT ALL HIS PICTURES
Anonymous
Thu Jan 20 2011 17:53
Well let me tell you one thing I myself went to Gary Job Corps in 94 and I really like it itwas good I didn't had no trouble there.I even got selected to represent my dorm for Miss Gary, I was a big sister there and I worked in the little store we had there and it was a good experience.I had a lot of friends also and back in those days Zero Talarnace was zero.The securiy was doing their jobs in getting you if someone was acting bad or doing bad things.I got my traingin there and I have a good job..I did put down on my application that I went to Gary Job Corps
Anonymous
Thu Nov 18 2010 09:24
i Go 2 job courrps end I lyk it uh lat!
Anonymous
Tue Mar 23 2010 09:51
I am a current student of "Job Corps from Hell" (Gary) and a former from Weber Basin Job Corps (a non-"Management & Training Corporation," much better-ran Job Corps center in Utah), and I find that this article still holds true. I, on a daily basis hear of, and occassionaly see and get involved in cases of many forms of harrassment, including sexual harrassment. There is SUPPOSED to be a ZERO-TOLERANCE policy against this as well, but getting staff to do something to enforce that policy is the extremely hard part, especially those who work for "Community Life (the so-called "campus police"). They do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and I as a student did not sign a lot of paperwork in order to be accepted here just to put up with that. If any staff of Gary ever sees this, I hope they undersand that YOU HAVE TAKEN A COMMITMENT TO HELP STUDENTS OUT IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. TAXPAYERS DO NOT PAY YOUR SALARY JUST TO HAVE YOU SIT THERE AND JUST OBSERVE ALL THE NEGATIVE ACTIVITY THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PREVENTING. YOU TOOK YOUR JOB BECAUSE YOU SAID "I CARE FOR THE STUDENTS AND WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP THEM SUCCEED IN THE REAL WORLD (THAT IS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF JOB CORPS)." IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE HELPING OTHER STUDENTS, RESIGN FROM GARY AND GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE. US STUDENTS WANT TO ENFORCE A ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY AGAINST LAZINESS OF STAFF!!!
Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 00:42
My son went thrugh simular circumstances at Carl D Perkins in Kentcky you are lucky you got out I feel sorry for students in these facilities my son ended up in a mental hospital and I brought him home where he is safe now but forever changed.
Michael K
Sat Feb 13 2010 14:47
I went to the Job Corp in Gary in 1988 when I was 15 and every negative comment about this hell hole is true. The majority of the people that go to Job Corp are thugs. Luckily I didn't spend much time in the general population because, after a few weeks in the dorms, I applied and was accepted as a mentor at the orientation building. As a mentor you get to live in this secluded building that is restricted to the general population. Every week there would be a new group of people that would spend the week learning about the place. On the weekends we had the building to ourselves and were allowed to go into San Marcos. Living there, however, did not shelter me from being victimized. One Saturday another mentor friend of mine and I went into town and missed the last evening bus back to Gary. So we ended up having to walk the railroad tracks which when followed would take you back to Gary. This is how everyone else who really didn't have passes would go to town. To make a long story short, my friend and I were jumped by 5 black guys. When they attacked us I feel down one side of the track and my friend fell down the other. Obviously they were after him for some reason because they beat his face to a bloody pulp. One guy jumped on me and punched my head a few times and told me to stay the "F%&@" down. My friend lived but we could have easily been killed that night and nobody when have ever been caught. There was constant fighting on the grounds. You would be walking to your class and I promise, everyday there would be a very large group of people in a circle yellng a carrying on watching someone get their ass kicked. Oh, and the gaurds that work there are a joke. They don't do a damn thing. They are all usually old guys and all they do is drive around in trucks all day. I never once saw them stop a fight or intervene in somebody getting beat up. Security there is a non-existent. Also, you can't take your eye off your stuff for a second. I was at the pool hall and sat my jacket on a chair to play pool. After my shot about a minute later, I turned around and the thing was gone. I was there for 6 months and decided I had had enough. I went on leave, taking all my belongings, and never went back. I do not recommend that anyone should go to this place. You'll spend most of your time trying to keep from getting jumped or your stuff stolen. It is not a good environment to try and learn. It is truly hell on earth.






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